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So I followed a link in a locked post to the Open-source Boob Project, and here's how my thinking went:

1) Wonder if I should post to my friendslist "Yes, you may".

2) Well, but should I friends-lock it?

3) Well, but then I should really remove anyone from my friendslist that I don't want touching my boobs.

4) Well, no, because I can say no to them. But wouldn't it be funny to just post an open post saying "If I drop you from my friendslist in the next day or so, it's because I don't want you touching my boobs"?

Anyway, Yes, you can. Ask, that is. I'm likely to say "You can touch my boobs; it's no big deal."

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I would really be wondering what new friendslist technology LJ was about to roll out.

Don't forget... turnabout is fair play...

the "yes, you may" is really referring to the asking, anyway, right? that's how i took it.

thanks for the link.

Ahh, that's what those buttons meant at Arisia. I shall definitely keep an eye out next year :-)

I have the button.

Yes, you may.

i have some _really_ mixed reactions to that post. the ferret guy creeps me out, and the thing reminded me first and foremost of harlan ellison groping connie willis and the resultant quiet movement to make cons safer for women, and i had to overcome that first before i could think about the proposition more sensibly.

the main conflicting thoughts i have are:

a) do we really need more men touching women in semi-sexual ways at non-sexual events? and more fetishizing of boobs? the idea that women end up wearing buttons to make asking about boob-touching not ok repels me so strongly, i don't even have good words for that without descending into profanity. while it may all be sunshine and rainbows for those guys who get to cop a feel, it creates a hostile environment for women who do not wish to be around groping men because they've had their goddamned share of it already.

b) a lot of people are touch-starved, and it would be nice if touch didn't carry such strong sexual messages, and if people could feel more free around touch even if it were mildly sexual. i am all for cuddle piles, and for straight-guy hugs, and for being affectionate with people one meets at an off-line gathering after knowing them for some time online.

i don't like that it's called "the open-source boob project". there is a lot of justification from other people after the initial post -- that it wasn't just about boobs and it wasn't just women being touched. ok, but why the hell isn't it called the "open-source touch project" or the "open-source body project" then? why the emphasis on boobs? is that just the skeevy ferret guy's perspective?

if i went to cons these days i'd probably stay far away from it, even though i am not inherently opposed to sharing some affectionate touch with relative strangers.

I sure hope this "project" doesn't turn up at NAAFA.

I had one thought.

Seeing how theferret had to clarify the original situation and relate that the person who first asked to touch was a woman (apparently the assumption was that it was a man who had asked), and that the woman who asked the woman in costume was a friend of said woman, I wonder if the "project" would have been perceived differently if one of the women in the founding group had posted the journal entry.

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