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Some coward posted an anonymous comment on my LJ and then removed it before I could respond to it, so I thought I'd post it here so that anyone who has inclination to could mock and deride this person. Hey, seems fair, yes?

(My journal, my rules: if you agree with this cowardly fuckwit, keep it to yourself.)



Hi,

I was just skimming and skimming through the MD board and I found your
post-- you said you weren't posting there anymore and I figured i would
respond to what you said...

Now, goodness it has been a while-- but still here is what I think.

Lots of times people make excuses for their size.

The truth as an expert sees it should not offend-- unless of course the
expert is wrong.

Being fat will lead you to dying earlier and a host of health problems.

I am completely anti-fat.

I don't respect people who do not take responsibility for their health
and I wouldn't hire them.

I guess that makes me a bigot... like most of American society.

Date: 2008-06-26 06:30 pm (UTC)
deakat: (Default)
From: [personal profile] deakat
I am completely anti-asshat.

Date: 2008-06-26 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] willendorf5761.livejournal.com
I agree with the part where s/he says s/he's a bigot -- does that count?

Date: 2008-06-26 06:31 pm (UTC)
hel: (Default)
From: [personal profile] hel
Oy. I wish I hadn't read that, the stupid really bummed me out.

Date: 2008-06-26 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] epi-lj.livejournal.com
You know what really bugs me a lot? The idea that if something makes you live slightly less long, it's morally irresponsible -- that the greatest goal you can have in all of life is to make sure you live as long as humanly possible.

Let's leave aside whether there's any connection with weight and longevity entirely. Why is that how we measure goodness and morality these days?

What about people who do extreme sports? Work in dangerous occupations*? Enlist in the military?

Should we refuse to respect them? Should employers refuse to hire them? If a co-worker decides to try tackling Everest, should they be out of a job?

* [livejournal.com profile] eeyorerin's contribution, via IM.

Date: 2008-06-26 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fightingtiger.livejournal.com
I won't address the bigot directly, but let me tell you what I think.

I respect people who attach names to their hate speech more than I do anonymous haters. I don't respect people who don't take responsibility for their mental health. That includes bigotry. I think an attack to one is an attack to all. I think the data around correlations between size and health is skewed at best and outright fraudulent at worst. I think anybody who sucked on their mama's tit is an expert at something, but that doesn't mean they're right or worthy of my ear. I think I'd prefer serenejournal's company to a bigot's anyday, and if I had money to give her a job, she'd certainly get it over a cowardly bigot.

Date: 2008-06-26 06:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] custardfairy.livejournal.com
If this person is completely anti-fat, s/he may be horrified to know that THERE ARE EVIL FAT CELLS living inside zir body right now, breeding and multiplying and BEING FAT.

Won't someone think of the children?

Date: 2008-06-26 06:46 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-06-26 06:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pure-agnostic.livejournal.com
What a rude comment left by some anonymous coward! Sheesh!

At least the person understands zie is a bigot.

Date: 2008-06-26 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] patgund.livejournal.com
Bigot = yes
coward for post anomyously = hell yes
Asshat to boot = more than likely

Date: 2008-06-26 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papabearnz.livejournal.com
What an idiot. It's not the length of life that is important but how you lived.

Everybody dies. We have no control over that. But not everybody actually lives!

Speaking as a fat man - I'd rather be the man I am than many of the more popular alternatives. I like diversity :)

Date: 2008-06-26 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] takumashii.livejournal.com
This person seems to be completely anti-fat including the fat that his/her brain requires for function.

Date: 2008-06-26 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dawnd.livejournal.com
Anonymous haters are the worst. I'm sorry you've had to deal with this today.

Date: 2008-06-26 09:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uncacreamy.livejournal.com
Being fat -can- lead to a host of health problems. The same with being a woman. Or over a certain age. Or under a certain age. Or just -ALIVE-. I insist this person make the healthy choice for itself, and take care of that living problem that will lead to so many health problems.. including heart disease, memory loss, and arthritis.

Date: 2008-06-26 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cakmpls.livejournal.com
Everyone has said everything already...but I particularly like the comments pointing out other things that might shorten one's life, and [livejournal.com profile] uncacreamy's suggestion for the asshat.

Date: 2008-06-26 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizzibabe.livejournal.com
Said person is suffering deeply. I recommend a rectalcraniologist STAT.

Date: 2008-06-27 12:23 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I'm on the overweight side myself. Not morbidly obese, but I could stand to lose about 30 to 40 pounds. I won't make any excuse for it...I choose to eat ice cream and cookies and to drink pop. I do have some physical and health issues that I didn't have when I weighed 30 to 40 pounds less, so they are probably related to my gain. I don't agree with this person about refusing to hire someone because of their weight and such. Only environmental reasons would cause me to not hire someone...like if my door was to narrow for a person or if my floor couldn't handle the person's weight. These I think would be the only kind of reasons to not hire someone due to their weight.

Date: 2008-06-27 02:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inflectionpoint.livejournal.com
Serene, I am proud of you.

Date: 2008-06-28 12:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] haleth.livejournal.com
You are awesome. <3

That is all.

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