I comment where I read.

[serene]

Open letter to my friends who are crossposting from Dreamwidth:

If you ask me to go to Dreamwidth to comment on posts I see on LJ, you should be aware that it's not going to happen. If you disable comments on LJ in order to force me to go to DW and comment, not only won't I comment, but I will be annoyed with you. Just sayin'.

(Not that I'm self-important enough to think my annoyance is something that matters greatly to you; just offering you a datapoint.)

Comments

[therealjae.livejournal.com]

Not that I was planning on doing this, but...why? I don't mind the people on my friends list who are doing that. In fact, I prefer the consolidation of the resulting conversation.

-J

[serenejournal.livejournal.com]

Not saying anyone is wrong for feeling differently, but I feel that LJ is LJ and DW is DW and if my friends want to be on LJ and not DW, it's not up to me to decide that they have to move over to DW in order to interact with me.

[sistercoyote.livejournal.com]

As long as you don't shit where you eat, I think we're good.

pennies for everybody!

[elynne.livejournal.com]

IANSJ but I feel the same way. I don't mind at all if somebody double-posts in LJ and whatever other blog-forum they want to use, but when a person removes LJ commenting from their posts with an instruction to "go reply over there", I feel like there's an expectation that of course I'll pick up on the Nifty New Shiny and get an account so I can comment. And I don't want to. There are very few people whose journals I will continue to read who do that sort of thing, and generally they're people who I wouldn't be commenting to much anyway, usually because they aren't people I actually know - so I'm content to be a spectator rather than a participant, as it were.

So - yeah, it feels to me like the person is saying "Either play the way I want to play, or I won't play with you anymore."

[serenejournal.livejournal.com]

?

[therealjae.livejournal.com]

But...aren't you on both? So it wouldn't be a matter of moving? I am so confused.

-J

[supergee.livejournal.com]

I'm probably going to crosspost everything here to DW, but you can rest assured I will not commit that particular bit of bad manners.

Re: I comment where I read.

[pir-anha.livejournal.com]

you might want to consider that maybe it's not about "forcing you to go to DW", but about consolidating comments in one place, because it's a bitch to do so after the fact (indeed, right now, it can't be done directly).

so i have two choices: make two similar but sufficiently different posts that it won't bother me to import the second one into DW (instead of leaving me with a precise duplicate except for the comments), or crosspost and ask people to use their openID account to comment where i am making my new home. i am not sure why i should bend over more for people who stay; i am already crossposting for them -- if they don't care enough to press an extra button to reply to me, well, that tells me how much they value conversation with me.

i do the same all the time for people who use blogger. you don't? are you annoyed with people who use blogger or wordpress because they're "forcing you" to comment over there since if you reply to the feed, they never see the replies unless they check over here explicitly? heck, it's more annoying to comment on blogger because it takes more than one extra keypress. not to mention the fucking captchas some people use.

it's not all about you. :)

[jessypie.livejournal.com]

I totally understand what you mean, and this is part of my larger gripe about duplication across social media websites (Facebook/Twitter being another prime example) - people want to have a presence on both, but don't necessarily treat them as distinct services, and you end up with duplicate content and fragmented responses (or rules about how visitors should behave).

I can understand the reasons why people choose to double-post (conveying the same information across friends who may not visit on every site, keeping backups of content all in one place, having a duplicate so that if one site goes down the other is still available), but that doesn't mean I have to like it. :)

[serenejournal.livejournal.com]

It doesn't matter to me that I happen to be on both. Most people won't be, and I think it's... hmm, discourteous? to start a conversation somewhere and then say, "but I won't even listen to you on this unless you're over in that other place where I'd prefer to talk about it".

[micheinnz.livejournal.com]

I'm on both, and intend to crosspost to hell and gone for the foreseeable, but the way I'll work is this:

If you post a comment on LJ, I'll read and reply on LJ.

If you post a comment on DW, I'll read and reply on DW.

[therealjae.livejournal.com]

So you're getting annoyed at people because of their manners? :-)

-J

[trixtah.livejournal.com]

Actually, I think for most people who are doing it, it's a transitional arrangement. I myself am certainly waiting for a critical mass of my flist to migrate across, and then I won't bother cross-posting by default. Since I have a permanent account, I'll leave my LJ around for archive purposes, and to comment on journals and communities here.

[serenejournal.livejournal.com]

I suppose, but I'm not sure what's amusing about that.

[therealjae.livejournal.com]

Oh, I don't know, getting annoyed by people's manners when they don't affect you seems a little...old-fashioned? Schoolmarm-ish? And like a waste of energy, for sure.

-J

[serenejournal.livejournal.com]

But they do affect me.

(Also, I think you're overestimating the amount of energy I've expended on this. I made a brief post in my own LJ about my own annoyance over a minor issue.)

[therealjae.livejournal.com]

If you can comment on both without any extra effort, how does that choice affect you?

And as for the "overestmating the amount of energy" comment, I wouldn't assume that. To me, any effort expended getting annoyed about a bit of manners that doesn't directly affect me would be too much energy expended. Your mileage may, of course, vary.

-J