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My mom sent me Ben Stein's "Get Off His Back" essay in email.

[livejournal.com profile] someotherguy's response was brilliant.



1) Ben Stein is not a climatologist.

2) Ben Stein is not a civil engineer.

3) Ben Stein is not an environmentalist.

4) Ben Stein is an actor. Sort of.

5) People who are climatologists say that global warming is real

6) People who are climatologists say that George Bush's policies have made it worse.

7) People who are civil engineers have been warning about the levees in New Orleans for years.

8) People who are environmentalists have been warning about the loss of wet lands around New Orleans for years.

9) The Bush administration has been ignoring climatologists, civil engineers and environmentalist for years, and listening instead to oil company PR men. Literally -- He has appointed a PR flacks to posts that should have gone to real scientists.

10) Ben Stein is one more person in a long line of non-scientists that Bush supporters trot out from time to time to contradict the care, research, and reasoned opinions of real scientists.

11) I'll stick with real science, thanks.

Date: 2005-10-03 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wordweaverlynn.livejournal.com
Bueller? Bueller?

Date: 2005-10-03 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scuttle.livejournal.com
Hey, but they have Michael Crichton on their side!

Date: 2005-10-03 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cjsmith.livejournal.com
Stein's essay makes some good points and then veers into complete inanity. *sigh*. I particularly like this point in response:

5) People who are climatologists say that global warming is real

There should be a specific word meaning "the kind of arrogance that leads a person with no formal training and no experience in a subject to believe he knows that subject better than someone who has lots of formal training and/or lots of experience in it". 'Cause it's common enough to deserve a name.

Date: 2005-10-03 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elynne.livejournal.com
I want to say "hubris," but I'm not sure if that's the right one...

Date: 2005-10-03 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cjsmith.livejournal.com
Yeah, hubris is good. I was hoping for a short word for this specific *flavor* of hubris, but hubris is a fine word for it until someone coins a specific one!

Date: 2005-10-03 11:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mactavish.livejournal.com
But before 4: Ben Stein was a law professor and one of Nixon's speech writers.

He's not completely uneducated in this sort of thing, but . . . well, I'd expect more apology from one of Nixon's speech writers.

Date: 2005-10-07 05:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misanthropoid.livejournal.com
Re: 7, 8, and 9

For years...yes, since 1964...that is to say that the levees and the loss of wetlands have been a known problem under the administration of Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, and Bush.

Not that the federal government should have had anything to do with the maintenance of local infrastructure other than to maintain the interstate waterway, but still.

Tonight was big fun doing homework on the constitution and bill of rights with the fifth grader. She's on her way to being a whiz kid on the limitations of federal powers and the importance thereof. I gained new respect for her instructor when the only misconception I had to correct was an overly restrictive interpretation of "peers". Ol' Cathy even put the emphasis on the right half of the second amendment.

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