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So I was talking in the rec.food.cooking chat channel on IRC, and something really beautiful happened. I will try to tell it without messing with anyone's confidentiality or anything, so forgive any vagueness.

Anyway, there's this really nice woman on rfc with some body issues (quick: name me ten women with NO body issues! No fair using dead women.). She's straight/married/monogamous-as-far-as-I-know, and very sweet. Anyway, she said to me out of the blue that she was going to send me a nude photo of herself. I said Wow, thanks, and if I can use it for the goddess wall, I'll be your best friend. She was happy/flattered, and then others in the channel asked if *they* could be on the wall, to which I of course said YES. [Important note: Goddess-wall pics don't have to be nudes, nor even photos -- [livejournal.com profile] sistercoyote sent some of her art. They just have to be something that says to you "I am a goddess." Yes, men, you're excluded. Get over it.]

Then someone else entered the chat channel, and the conversation went something like this:

Sweet woman: Hey, [newcomer], we're sending nudes of ourselves to Serene. Wanna join us?
Newcomer: Why would I want to do that to Serene? I like her!
Sweet woman: Well, I have some serious body hatred going on, and Serene's gonna help me get over it. I figure if someone other than my husband can look at my body and appreciate it, that's a good first step.

And then. THEN. A room (fsvo "room") full of women started talking about how bogus it is that society wants us to starve ourselves, and how hips are really nice looking, and how having a good attitude at any size can make a woman beautiful, and on and on and on. I wanted to hug them all. I wanted to hug myself! I wanted to just sweep them all up and caress away every mean, body-hating thing anyone ever said to them.

So.

The Goddess Wall is back on, in honor of this sweet woman, who made me remember why it is I am "out" about being happily fat. I could just cry. Aw, hell, there I go.
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Date: 2006-04-08 04:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karenthecroccy.livejournal.com
I didn't know you had a goddess wall. What are you looking for in the pictures? Cuz ... I may have one for your wall.

Date: 2006-04-08 04:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serenejournal.livejournal.com
Thanks for reminding me to edit the post to say this:

[Important note: Goddess-wall pics don't have to be nudes, nor even photos -- [livejournal.com profile] sistercoyote sent some of her art. They just have to be something that says to you "I am a goddess." Yes, men, you're excluded. Get over it.]

Date: 2006-04-08 04:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] epi-lj.livejournal.com
That really is very cool. :)

Date: 2006-04-08 04:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hnybny.livejournal.com
Yeah, what is the Goddess Wall all about?

Date: 2006-04-08 04:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serenejournal.livejournal.com
I have a wall of art in my apartment (and in every apartment I've had for the last six or seven years) on which are representations of goddesses -- not religious ones, mostly, though there are some of those, but women and fairies and other things that represent goddesshood to me and my friends. It started with one photo that inspired me -- let's see if I can find it. Yeah. I'll put it at the end of this comment, but it's not worksafe, so don't click over to the web if you're at work.

Anyway, that photo went up on my wall, and then some fat fairies friends had bought me, and then a photo of my grandmother, and then photos and other art requested from friends. Interspersed among all the pictures and figurines are framed mirrors so that anyone looking at the wall can see herself up there among the goddesses.

Image

Date: 2006-04-08 04:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serenejournal.livejournal.com
Oh, and it started as fat goddesses, but then a thin friend wanted in, and I couldn't think of why not, so there you have it.

Date: 2006-04-08 04:35 am (UTC)
kshandra: A cross-stitch sampler in a gilt frame, plainly stating "FUCK CANCER" (Nude)
From: [personal profile] kshandra
Have I sent you anything yet?

Date: 2006-04-08 04:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serenejournal.livejournal.com
Nope. I think I was supposed to poke you about a year ago. Oops. :-)

Date: 2006-04-08 04:40 am (UTC)
kshandra: A cross-stitch sampler in a gilt frame, plainly stating "FUCK CANCER" (Nude)
From: [personal profile] kshandra
@ serenepages.org?

Date: 2006-04-08 04:45 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kiya
That, that, that is fucking cool.

Date: 2006-04-08 04:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hnybny.livejournal.com
How many do you have so far?

Date: 2006-04-08 04:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serenejournal.livejournal.com
Yeppers. Yay!

Date: 2006-04-08 04:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serenejournal.livejournal.com
There are currently twelve goddesses and five or so mirrors on the goddess wall, but I have at least that many contributions I've been meaning to add since we moved, and I have been lagging. I'm newly inspired to get them up.

You go Girl!

Date: 2006-04-08 05:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tracytreefrog.livejournal.com
Yes that is a great wall! Thought of sending a pick but maybe that would be weird?

Date: 2006-04-08 05:07 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] vito-excalibur.livejournal.com
I love the mirrors part. You fucking rock.

Incidentally, love the legs on this babe.

Positive Body Image

Date: 2006-04-08 05:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] revcarol.livejournal.com
Thank you for helping people of all sizes feel good about themselves. It's a very special gift that you share so openly. You're a good person, Serene.

Date: 2006-04-08 05:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karenthecroccy.livejournal.com
I've sent something on. Use it if you like. :)

Re: You go Girl!

Date: 2006-04-08 05:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serenejournal.livejournal.com
Not weird to me at all! In case it feels weird to you, I offer you these notes:

1) your brother can't get into my apartment;
2) it doesn't have to be a nude; and
3) fuck'em if they don't like it. :-)

Date: 2006-04-08 05:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serenejournal.livejournal.com
God, it's great. I'm halfway tempted to ask [livejournal.com profile] eeyore_grrl for one of her poems about you to go with it. :-)

Date: 2006-04-08 05:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karenthecroccy.livejournal.com
Oh geesh. The stuff of legends. I'm flattered! *laugh* Thanks!

Date: 2006-04-08 05:28 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jeliza
That rocks. There is a collab I did with my friend [livejournal.com profile] javagoth for my thesis show here. If you like it, I'll send you a print. (it was four feet high at the show, but I have several 8x10s sitting on a shelf.)

Date: 2006-04-08 05:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serenejournal.livejournal.com
My standard answer is that if that's the image that says "Goddess" to you, I would be very honored to have it. I admit to being a little discomfited by it, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be perfect, especially if it makes you feel goddesslike when you look at it.

Re: Positive Body Image

Date: 2006-04-08 05:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serenejournal.livejournal.com
*smooch* You're the best.

Date: 2006-04-08 06:46 am (UTC)
jeliza: custom avatar by hexdraws (tux)
From: [personal profile] jeliza
Hmm. It reminds me of Tammy's goddesshood, but I'm not sure it makes *me* feel like a goddess to look at it -- sometimes I just think how much braver than I am she is. I'll have to ponder on this one.

Date: 2006-04-08 06:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serenejournal.livejournal.com
There, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, I'd like it, if you're sure you can spare it. Thanks!
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