Okay, whaddaya think?

[serene]

Dean or Kucinich?

(My limited thinking so far: Both seem to have politics in my general vicinity, if not the same neighborhood. Dean seems to have the political and fundraising power to pull it off.)

I know not much about either of them, but I want to know more, and part of what I want to know is your take on them, and on anything else related to the dethroning election.

Comments

[jenhowell.livejournal.com]

This is a somewhat strange perception that many people have of Kucinich. Why strange? Because Kucinich is already working with others in government as a member of Congress. He's a leader in the Progressive Caucus, and already knows the players, whereas Dean is the governor of a small Eastern state.

Additionally, simply because someone has strong, detailed views on the issues, doesn't mean they can't work with Congress. It just means they're showing the people what they're gonna get, unlike pretty much all the other candidates, who are being mysterious so that we can all fill in the blanks with stuff we'd like to see there.

It's kind of like dating. Most of the Dems (Dean included) are being kind of coy, so that we won't get to know their flaws. Kucinich is letting it all hang out and so some people are turned off by that and say, hey, you might disagree with me about this and that.

But in the end, they're all going to have flaws, all going to have sticky points with Congress (even Clinton did and he was the ultimate team player).

Kucinich is at least being upfront about what he wants to do for us, so we can choose intelligently.

That said, Bush is not a team player. Bush took a non-mandate and hi-jacked the country. Yet he is regarded by many as a "good leader" for just that reason. Maybe it's time that we take our actual mandate and put a liberal in there who can turn back the clock to "normal" and maybe even get us moving in a positive direction again.

We can do it. But we have to take our power and believe in it. I think that's most of the problem with Democrats and Liberals these days. So many of us don't believe in our power and our ability to use it.

- Jen

[mactavish.livejournal.com]

This is a somewhat strange perception that many people have of Kucinich. Why strange? Because Kucinich is already working with others in government as a member of Congress. He's a leader in the Progressive Caucus, and already knows the players, whereas Dean is the governor of a small Eastern state.

Exactly!

Additionally, simply because someone has strong, detailed views on the issues, doesn't mean they can't work with Congress.

Yes. But I'd disagree with anyone who made this claim.

But in the end, they're all going to have flaws, all going to have sticky points with Congress (even Clinton did and he was the ultimate team player).

Yes.

[jenhowell.livejournal.com]

Did we already discuss Dean and Kucinich? Your username is familiar. I get way too talky about Kucinich sometimes...

[mactavish.livejournal.com]

I don't remember.