Deciding that an "unattractive" woman with a lower-back tattoo is so obviously a slut that your friend wins the argument about how they are indicators of sluttiness? Icky, sexist, and something I can only imagine a hetboy even doing.
(Full disclosure: I have called a lower back tattoo a tramp stamp, but it was on a guy, and I just think it's funny, not that it actually says anything about his sex life.)
Icky, sexist, and something I can only imagine a hetboy even doing.
Really? Because I have known countless het and bi women who talk about other women this way. And I'm not talking just in high school, I mean bona fide adult women trash-talking other women based on appearance and perceived and/or actual sexual behavior. Not to mention many, many gay and bi men. I have encountered many gay men who felt it their entitlement to comment on the appearance and perceived sexual activity of random women just because.
I'm not arguing that many het men don't talk the way Wheaton did in his blog. They do. But so do many women (of various orientations) and non-het men. At least in my experience.
That article made me sad. Reminded me of a male ex of mine who got freaked out when I was snogging with a rather cute butch woman, who I went on to date.
Male ex said, "But -I- don't find anything about her attractive, bla bla bla..." And I remember thinking, that's fine, darling. Noone was askig -you- whether -you- thought my potential girlfriend was attractive to you. She's my potential girlfriend, not yours.
It was bizarre - like his measures of attractiveness were supposed to dictate my choice of girlfriends. Very odd boundary creep there.
I'm sorry people write such obnoxious sexist trash. -That- is what's ugly.
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Date: 2007-09-08 08:02 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-09-08 08:10 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-09-08 08:16 pm (UTC)Calling lower-back tattoos "tramp stamps"? Icky *and* sexist.
Deciding that an "unattractive" woman with a lower-back tattoo is so obviously a slut that your friend wins the argument about how they are indicators of sluttiness? Icky, sexist, and something I can only imagine a hetboy even doing.
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Date: 2007-09-08 08:59 pm (UTC)At the moment, I don't even know where I stand on this stuff.
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Date: 2007-09-08 09:51 pm (UTC)I see gay men, and occasionally lesbians, portrayed in exactly this behavior all the time on tv.
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Date: 2007-09-08 09:53 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-09-08 10:54 pm (UTC)(Full disclosure: I have called a lower back tattoo a tramp stamp, but it was on a guy, and I just think it's funny, not that it actually says anything about his sex life.)
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Date: 2007-09-10 07:40 am (UTC)Really? Because I have known countless het and bi women who talk about other women this way. And I'm not talking just in high school, I mean bona fide adult women trash-talking other women based on appearance and perceived and/or actual sexual behavior. Not to mention many, many gay and bi men. I have encountered many gay men who felt it their entitlement to comment on the appearance and perceived sexual activity of random women just because.
I'm not arguing that many het men don't talk the way Wheaton did in his blog. They do. But so do many women (of various orientations) and non-het men. At least in my experience.
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Date: 2007-09-08 09:06 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-09-09 04:55 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-09-09 05:00 am (UTC)That article made me sad. Reminded me of a male ex of mine who got freaked out when I was snogging with a rather cute butch woman, who I went on to date.
Male ex said, "But -I- don't find anything about her attractive, bla bla bla..." And I remember thinking, that's fine, darling. Noone was askig -you- whether -you- thought my potential girlfriend was attractive to you. She's my potential girlfriend, not yours.
It was bizarre - like his measures of attractiveness were supposed to dictate my choice of girlfriends. Very odd boundary creep there.
I'm sorry people write such obnoxious sexist trash. -That- is what's ugly.
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Date: 2007-09-09 11:13 pm (UTC)